{"id":6050,"date":"2017-11-21T20:07:50","date_gmt":"2017-11-21T19:07:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/coop.eelv.fr\/?p=6050"},"modified":"2017-11-21T20:07:50","modified_gmt":"2017-11-21T19:07:50","slug":"on-se-lance-et-cest-lesperanto-sans-peine-episode-3-et-cest-pas-dur","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ecolo.ovh\/index.php\/2017\/11\/21\/on-se-lance-et-cest-lesperanto-sans-peine-episode-3-et-cest-pas-dur\/","title":{"rendered":"On se lance et c\u2019est l\u2019esperanto sans peine. \u00c9pisode 3 ! 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Mais ceux qui suivent auront compris.<\/p>\n<p>Je vous pr\u00eate quelques racines verbales, quelques affixes pour voir si vous suivez.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Suffixe<\/strong> qui indique :<\/p>\n<p>Le f\u00e9minin : ino &#8211; Le masculin : o &#8211; le metier : isto<\/p>\n<p><strong>P<\/strong><strong>r\u00e9fixe<\/strong> qui indique :<\/p>\n<p>le contraire : mal \/ la r\u00e9p\u00e9tition : re \/ le d\u00e9but d\u2019une action : ek<\/p>\n<p>sxafo : mouton<\/p>\n<p>garder : gardi<\/p>\n<p><strong>Traduisons<\/strong> : <em>le berger garde les moutons, la berg\u00e8re aussi.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Attention<\/strong> : apr\u00e8s on d\u00e9lire un peu, quand on a la forme autant en profiter !<\/p>\n<p><em>la sxafisto gardas la sxafojn, la sxafistino ankaux<\/em><\/p>\n<p>(le j est la marque du pluriel et le n celui du fameux accusatif, je l\u2019adore cet accusatif, avec lui on joue, on rigole).<\/p>\n<p>Si le berger ne garde pas des moutons on dit<em> \u00ab la sxafisto malgardas sxafojn \u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<p>L\u00e0 il fait le contraire de garder, s\u2019il ne garde pas on dirait <em>la sxafisto ne gardas<\/em>\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Normal il est distrait par la berg\u00e8re : <em>\u00ab normale la sxafistino malatentigas (mal \u2013 atenti \u2013igas : le contraire attentif rendre) lin<\/em> \u00bb<\/p>\n<p>Il n\u2019y a plus de conscience professionnelle \u00e0 notre \u00e9poque !<\/p>\n<p>Le berger garde la berg\u00e8re et les moutons (version machiste)<\/p>\n<p><em>\u00ab la sxafisto gardas la sxafistinon kaj la sxafojn<\/em> \u00bb<\/p>\n<p>J\u2019ai envie de ne pas mettre d\u2019accusatif \u00e0 la berg\u00e8re<em> (version non machiste)<\/em> :<\/p>\n<p>\u00ab <em>La sxafisto gardas la sxafistino kaj la sxafojn \u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Comme \u00e7a il y a un doute, je vous donne un \u00ab n \u00bb \u00e0 vous de le mettre au berger ou \u00e0 la berg\u00e8re pour indiquer qui garde l\u2019autre.<\/p>\n<p>Si on met ek avant gardas : <em>\u00ab ekgardas<\/em> \u00bb, on indique le d\u00e9but d\u2019une action.<\/p>\n<p>Et c\u2019est pas bon, on sait pas comment \u00e7a finit (il y a des stats l\u00e0-dessus) quand il y a des bergers et des berg\u00e8res ensemble (<em>kiam estas sxafistoj kaj sxafistinoj)<\/em> et que \u00e7a se prolonge <em>(kaj kiam tio ekdauxras).<\/em><\/p>\n<p>D\u2019ailleurs il pleut berg\u00e8re, rentre tes blancs moutons : \u00ab <em>pluvas, pluvas sxafistino iru sxafejon<\/em> (ejo\u00a0: le lieu et n\u00a0: accusatif de lieu) <em>kun<\/em> <em>viaj blankaj sxafoj<\/em> \u00bb. L\u00e0 c\u2019est peut \u00eatre un peu dur vers la fin de la phrase. Litt\u00e9ralement \u00e7a donne\u00a0: Il pleut, il pleut berg\u00e8re va \u00e0 la bergerie avec tes blancs moutons. Bien de gens ignorent que c\u2019est Marie-Antoinette qui a \u00e9crit la chanson, paroles et musique. Mais, il est vrai, un peu beaucoup aid\u00e9e par Lully (elle n\u2019avait pas toute sa t\u00eate, ou alors elle \u00e9tait t\u00eate en l\u2019air).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Note de la r\u00e9daction<\/strong> : un petit malin l\u2019accusatif car on peut l\u2019employer pour marquer un d\u00e9placement. Exemple \u00ab <em>mi kuras domon<\/em> \u00bb : je cours \u00e0 la maison.<\/p>\n<p>J\u2019ai des moutons sous mon lit : <em>\u00ab mi havas sxafojn sub mia lito<\/em> \u00bb.<\/p>\n<p>Vous voyez l\u2019esperanto c\u2019est plus facile \u00e0 d\u00e9chiffrer que la pierre de Rosette<\/p>\n<p>(En fait, aux derni\u00e8res nouvelles la pierre de Rosette indique la recette du couscous, Champollion s\u2019est plant\u00e9 grave).<\/p>\n<p>Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens d\u2019\u00e9crire, c&rsquo;est que j&rsquo;ai d\u00fb faire une erreur quelque part.<\/p>\n<p>Gxix la revido<\/p>\n<p>(\u00e0 la revoyure)<\/p>\n<p>Marc Gallardo<\/p>\n<p>Coop\u00e9rateur EELV<\/p>\n<p>PACA<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dans la famille des coop\u00e9rateurs, je demande qui sont les gens ayant surv\u00e9cu aux \u00e9pisodes 1 et 2 de l\u2019esp\u00e9ranto sans peine. 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